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Thank you thank you thank you for this hint! This has been driving us crazy. I talked to Apple and to Canon (I have a Canon i860) some time ago and got no where. These are exactly our symptoms.. The jobs from the computer that prints via wireless will just stop in the middle. (The jobs from the computer that is plugged into our Airport Extreme Base Station via Ethernet cable have no problem). I will try this out.
If anyone has any other clues on this problem, please post!
I wonder if this is specific to Canon printers, by the way. That would be worth knowing.
If anyone has any other clues on this problem, please post!
I wonder if this is specific to Canon printers, by the way. That would be worth knowing.
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a Canon issue. We run a Mac/PC based shop and have had nothing but issues with the Canon Mac drivers for our W8400.
The Canon rep has told us that they were hit really hard when Apple released Tiger. They have been trying to fix drivers ever since.
The Canon rep has told us that they were hit really hard when Apple released Tiger. They have been trying to fix drivers ever since.
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
Canon has horrible Tiger support. At one point I searched and searched for the updated driver on their website. There was a link that was supposed to allow me to download it, but it gave an error every time. Finally I realized that someone hadn't coded it correctly, and the link was pointing to the wrong page. After hand-typing the correct address I was able to download the link. What a painful, and completely unnecessary, process.
First, Thank You So Very Much!
It has always been a thorn in my side that anytime I tried to print an 8x10 photo to my HP 7760 (via airport) it would always hang partway through. What made it worse is that Windows XP using the Apple Bonjour drivers works flawlessly (not to mention XP's better all around support for photo printing built in to the OS, itself).
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
It has always been a thorn in my side that anytime I tried to print an 8x10 photo to my HP 7760 (via airport) it would always hang partway through. What made it worse is that Windows XP using the Apple Bonjour drivers works flawlessly (not to mention XP's better all around support for photo printing built in to the OS, itself).
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
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Wow!
That really helps! You just saved me from throwing my HP printer out, nah through the window..
I fiddleld with the setings and found that for me
sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 12Mbit/s queue 10
worked best. I figured since USB1 is using that speed, that wouldn't be problem. The printer now prints as fast as ever, but just doesn't stop anymore..
That really helps! You just saved me from throwing my HP printer out, nah through the window..
I fiddleld with the setings and found that for me
sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 12Mbit/s queue 10
worked best. I figured since USB1 is using that speed, that wouldn't be problem. The printer now prints as fast as ever, but just doesn't stop anymore..
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
I've changed my settings to the 12Mbit/s. I've also done away with the
'queue 10'
bit, and will see if that makes a difference.
Many thanks for your comment!
Jon
'queue 10'
bit, and will see if that makes a difference.
Many thanks for your comment!
Jon
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
I use an Canon i900D and have had this problem since OS10.4. I used the 12Mb speed and for the first time since then I have managed to print a full photo without stopping. Thanks for solving this problem. You should tell Apple and Canon!
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diem
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diem
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
Dear diem,
Thanks for this. It's good to know that there's a few Canon printers that work.
Best wishes, Jon
(jgh23)
Thanks for this. It's good to know that there's a few Canon printers that work.
Best wishes, Jon
(jgh23)
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
Thanks to you for solving what Apple and or Canon couldn't
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diem
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diem
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
Huh! For more than a year I had to use a workaround to this very same problem, which was to share the printer with another computer, which had the printer connected via USB. This way the airport printing always went through the computer. Obviously every remote print job required booting/waking up the 'proxy' computer :-( If your solution works - you certainly deserve kudos for finding the culprit. Now they should eventually have no more excuses for fixing this heavily annoying bug. Please notify Apple, HP and Canon and all the hundreds of unhappy people on discussions.apple.com..
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
I'm also experiencing issues with printing over Airport, but in my case, the USB HP printer is connected to an iMac wired to a DLink wireless router.
The iBook connected thru the airport (801b) , sometimes loses the connection to the printer. It doesn't seem to be a wifi signal problem, cause it's only 2 feet away in the same room. And since the print server is running on the iMac, it shouldn't have a bandwith problem.
The iBook connected thru the airport (801b) , sometimes loses the connection to the printer. It doesn't seem to be a wifi signal problem, cause it's only 2 feet away in the same room. And since the print server is running on the iMac, it shouldn't have a bandwith problem.
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
With the help of those that have commented, and some on discussions.apple.com too, it looks like
sudo ipfw add pipe 1 ip from any to <IP Address of AirPort Base Station> 10000
(filling in the IP Address of the Airport Base Station that the printer is connected to) and then
sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 12Mbit/s
allow modern printers to work at the more normal USB printer speed of 12Mbit/s. (You can always try the fall back 1Mbit/s, if the connection is still too fast.)
Thanks to all who have replied.
sudo ipfw add pipe 1 ip from any to <IP Address of AirPort Base Station> 10000
(filling in the IP Address of the Airport Base Station that the printer is connected to) and then
sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 12Mbit/s
allow modern printers to work at the more normal USB printer speed of 12Mbit/s. (You can always try the fall back 1Mbit/s, if the connection is still too fast.)
Thanks to all who have replied.
Quick question (hope people are still reading this thread!): Is this fix permanent, or only until a logout/reboot?
Mon
Mon
I know that it does not last through a reboot. I don't know about logout without reboot.
Best wishes, Jon
(jgh23)
Best wishes, Jon
(jgh23)
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
I would have 2 questions about this fix..
1 - Is it permanent, or should we apply it after every start of the Macintosh?
2 - What about AirportDisk? Will this printing fix only limit the bandwith to the Printer, or will it also limit the bandwith available for communications with the usb Disk plugged on a usb hub on an Airport Extreme base????
And finally, if the fix is permanent, how can we restore the default settings?
Thanks to all for any answer
1 - Is it permanent, or should we apply it after every start of the Macintosh?
2 - What about AirportDisk? Will this printing fix only limit the bandwith to the Printer, or will it also limit the bandwith available for communications with the usb Disk plugged on a usb hub on an Airport Extreme base????
And finally, if the fix is permanent, how can we restore the default settings?
Thanks to all for any answer
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
I've wrote a little Applescript to set this bandwith limitation at every start of the Mac (these settings arent' kept when the Mac is shut down)Feel free to download it there
http://idisk.mac.com/remyleroy/Publi..imitation.scpt
Just edit the script using AppleScript Editor and change
type_your_Airport_base_station_IP by the correct IP address of your Aiport Base Station (mine is 10.0.1.1)
and
write here your admin password by your Admin password (between quotes)
type_your_Airport_base_station_IP by the correct IP address of your Aiport Base Station (mine is 10.0.1.1)
and
write here your admin password by your Admin password (between quotes)
Save this script as an application and launch it after every start of the Mac
Note that this script only reproduces what is explained in this thread. I'm not a specialist of these Terminal and Unix settings... but if you've tested the fix and you noticed that it works for you, this script will allow you to automate it instead of typing these 2 command lines in the Terminal at every start.
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
Sorry the URL to downlaod the script is
http://idisk.mac.com/remyleroy/Public/ipfw_AirportPrinting_bandwidth_limitation.scpt
http://idisk.mac.com/remyleroy/Public/ipfw_AirportPrinting_bandwidth_limitation.scpt
Yet another way to automate it at startum: Airprintfix
In addition to the way proposed by Remy above, this is just to mention there is also Airprintfix, http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/24661 , that implements almost these very two commands into a startupitem. Once installed in the right place (and the authorization properly reset), you can forget it forever :-)
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
Thanks, it worked great.
This seems to be a problem not with the airport base station but with the airport card itself.
I use this hint to fix the problem with a printer (HP 6980) connected directly thru a router.
I tried AirPrintFix, but it didn't work as expected, it was never executed due to privileges problems.
So I wrote an Applescript to correct it, saved as an application and included it into the user's login's items thru the prefferences panel.
The applescript is :
<code>
do shell script 'sudo ipfw add pipe 1 ip from any to x.x.x.x pppp' password 'your password' with administrator privileges
do shell script 'sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 2Mbit/s queue 10' password 'your password' with administrator privileges
</code>
where x.x.x.x is the printer's ip and
pppp is the printer's bonjour service port ( find it out with bonjour browser )
HTH
This seems to be a problem not with the airport base station but with the airport card itself.
I use this hint to fix the problem with a printer (HP 6980) connected directly thru a router.
I tried AirPrintFix, but it didn't work as expected, it was never executed due to privileges problems.
So I wrote an Applescript to correct it, saved as an application and included it into the user's login's items thru the prefferences panel.
The applescript is :
<code>
do shell script 'sudo ipfw add pipe 1 ip from any to x.x.x.x pppp' password 'your password' with administrator privileges
do shell script 'sudo ipfw pipe 1 config bw 2Mbit/s queue 10' password 'your password' with administrator privileges
</code>
where x.x.x.x is the printer's ip and
pppp is the printer's bonjour service port ( find it out with bonjour browser )
HTH
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
I'm sorry that AirPrintFix didn't work for you. Its main advantage over an applescript is that it doesn't need a copy of your password, and is automatically there whenever anyone logs in.
If you can describe the problems that meant it didn't work, I can try to fix them in AirPrintFix.
Best, Jon Hall
(This hint's, and AirPrintFix's, author)
I was also having problems. In my case just having an Airport on the network was a problem. Symptoms were print job would die partway through the job with communications error 306. I have a Canon Pixma iP 3300. If the Airport was disconnected from the network the printer would print and reconnecting the Airport caused the problem to recur. There are some comments on the net about Bonjour being an issue but I couldn't turn off Bonjour. Changing file sharing didn't help. I then applied the ipfw solution and now no printer problems. I only did the throttling to the airport with for this to work. I did not have to throttle the connection to the printer. 10.0.1.1 is my airport ip address. I have an old classic airport, the flying saucer/gumdrop device with the das blinkenlichten (blinkenlights).If you can describe the problems that meant it didn't work, I can try to fix them in AirPrintFix.
Best, Jon Hall
(This hint's, and AirPrintFix's, author)
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Steve Holland
Steve Holland
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Finally found this solution after years of living with the problem, and THANK YOU!
Just want to add one odd detail. I have two Tiger iMacs (Intel and PPC) with a Canon iP5200 attached to an ABS. The Intel beast is wired to the network, and the PPC beast is wireless. I have never had a problem printing from the wired system and have problems at least 50% of the time from the wireless system. If this is purely a 'too much bandwidth' problem, why isn't it a problem for both systems?
Also, the PPC wireless system is forced to use 802.11g since it can't use the newer 802.11n cards. Is it a problem in the card on the PPC, or perhaps with how the ABS handles 802.11g? I've got a MacBook with an 802.11n card, and while I've never had problems printing from it through this same ABS I don't do that very often.
I must also echo the complaint of an earlier poster that Apple hasn't fixed this.
Just want to add one odd detail. I have two Tiger iMacs (Intel and PPC) with a Canon iP5200 attached to an ABS. The Intel beast is wired to the network, and the PPC beast is wireless. I have never had a problem printing from the wired system and have problems at least 50% of the time from the wireless system. If this is purely a 'too much bandwidth' problem, why isn't it a problem for both systems?
Also, the PPC wireless system is forced to use 802.11g since it can't use the newer 802.11n cards. Is it a problem in the card on the PPC, or perhaps with how the ABS handles 802.11g? I've got a MacBook with an 802.11n card, and while I've never had problems printing from it through this same ABS I don't do that very often.
I must also echo the complaint of an earlier poster that Apple hasn't fixed this.
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
Another idea. I have had this problem off and on for years. It depends on Airport being on the network. On a lark I went to System Preferences -> Netwrork, selected Ethernet and clicked on Advanced .. on the lower right. There I selected Ethernet, and set the following: Configure Manually, Speed 100baseTX, full-duplex, MTU Standard. The essential change was to switch from 'Full-duplex with flow control' to 'full-duplex'. Clicked OK, then Applied. No problems since but for a short time. Forgive me if this is premature, but I wanted to log this before I forgot what I did. Any follow up reports would be appreciated.
A possible fix for unreliable printing over Airport
After several weeks this appears to be a durable fix. If anyone else can confirm this is will be very helpful. --- Steve HollandEdited on Mar 25, '11 05:17:33PM by kd4ttc
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I knew at the time that Gimp-Print 4.0 had some seriouslimitations that would restrict what could be done. In particular,its color model was very restricted (it could only handle RGB andCMYK printers, possibly with light magenta and light yellow inks) andthe code was still closely tied in with the Print plugin for theGIMP. I wanted to devise a new architecture for the next release thatwould allow us to take advantage of more printer capabilities andsupport improved color generation and dithering, but progress wasslow. It took us a few months to fully stabilize Gimp-Print 4.0, andit became clear that our more ambitious goals weren't going to beachieved quickly. We decided to do an interim stable release based onimprovements to the 4.0 codebase that would give us some breathingspace while we worked on a new architecture.
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The interim stable release was to become Gimp-Print 4.2. We usedthe numbering scheme adopted by the Linux kernel team, whereby stablereleases were denoted by even numbers in the minor release (the “2”in 4.2) while odd numbers denoted unstable development releases. Wewere fortunate that Roger Leigh joined the project shortly after theGimp-Print 4.0 release. Roger is a superb architect, and he quicklywhipped the somewhat disorganized code base into shape. We spent mostof 2001 cleaning up the code base, adding support for CUPS (by now,Mike Sweet had joined the project) and the nascent Foomatic metadatamanagement project, improving the color generation and ditheringcode, and adding support for more printers. A lot of our work wentinto automatically generating the CUPS PPD files and Foomatic data;the project already supported about 200 printers with a large numberof options, and writing all of this by hand would be tedious,error-prone, and unmaintainable. We spent most of the fall working ondocumentation, cleaning up bugs, and the like, and releasedGimp-Print 4.2.0 in late November.
Anticipating that the next major release of Gimp-Print would be amore extensive project, we decided to branch the 4.2 release, andwork on the next release (which would be either 4.4 or 5.0, dependingupon how extensive the changes would be) while also releasing updatesto 4.2. This would allow us to fix bugs and add new printers andperhaps minor new capabilities for users wanting a stable Gimp-Printrelease while making much more radical changes in preparation for thenext release. We started work on Gimp-Print 4.3 (the developmentseries that would eventually mature into the next stable releaseseries) around the beginning of 2002.
The Gimp-Print 4.2 release proved to be far more successful thanwe ever imagined. First of all, it was wonderfully stable from theoutset; it was to be over 4 months before we needed to release anupdate. We added one major new feature shortly after release, supportfor the new Ghostscript driver architecture based on HP's HPIJSdriver. This driver architecture allowed drivers to be compiledindependently of Ghostscript (previously drivers had to be compiledinto Ghostscript, a somewhat daunting project for end users). Wecontinued to add more printers, dither algorithms, and so forth, allwithout breaking compatibility with the initial 4.2.0 release.
2002 was a very exciting year for Gimp-Print. Apple had releasedOS X for the Macintosh and was planning to rely on a lot of free/opensource software for key functions of the OS. In particular from ourstandpoint, many vendors had not updated printer drivers for OS X,and many did not want to update their drivers for older printers.Since OS X had settled on CUPS as the core of its printing systemfrom 10.2 on, and Gimp-Print had full support for CUPS, the fit wasvery obvious and Gimp-Print wound up becoming part of the OS Xprinting system. We were very busy that year preparing for release ofGimp-Print for OS X. This was done in 4.2.2, which we released almost9 months after the initial 4.2.0 release (which says something aboutthe stability of Gimp-Print 4.2). This release created a lot ofexcitement in the OS X world and for us, and we did three morereleases in quick succession culminating with Gimp-Print 4.2.5 inearly 2003.
I was expecting that there would be one more release of Gimp-Print4.2 that would primarily contain bug fixes and incremental supportfor new printers. By 2003, many of the printers being released hadcapabilities beyond what Gimp-Print 4.2 could support. I alsoexpected that we would be ready to release Gimp-Print 4.4 or 5.0within a year, so there wouldn't be a need for anything more. https://evernv199.weebly.com/blog/song-mixing-software-free-download-for-mac. Wereleased Gimp-Print 4.2.6 in early 2004. However, there were stillsome problems with that release, and we did one more release (4.2.7)in July 2004. This wound up being the final Gimp-Print 4.2 release.
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In the meantime, work on Gimp-Print 4.3 was progressing, albeitrather slowly. We wanted to support the newest generation printerswith tiny droplets, very high resolutions, and extra colors, inaddition to adding color management and the possibility of supportingmany more printer capabilities beyond the fixed set offered inGimp-Print 4.2. In part due to all of the maintenance work on 4.2,and in part due to the natural tendency of people to move on to otherprojects, we made only slow progress on Gimp-Print 4.3. It was clearthat we weren't going to release a next generation of Gimp-Print in2002 or early 2003 as we hoped. However, the success of Gimp-Print4.2 took some of the pressure off, because 4.2 was proving to behighly maintainable. We wanted the next generation of Gimp-Print tobe more than just another incremental advance.
The core of the new parameter-based API, and hence of Gimp-Print4.3, was in place by early 2003. By this time, 4.2 was slowing down,and work on our development tree was starting to pick up. We decidedthat the architectural and user experience changes were sufficient toname the next release 5.0, and I put together a plan for going toalpha in July and releasing 5.0 in November 2003. That was not to be.
We were doing new releases of 4.3 for intrepid adventurers everyfew weeks, with extensive changes continuing, and it was only inDecember that we finally felt ready to move to 5.0 alpha, which wereleased in January 2004. Progress was slow; there were still quite afew API changes we felt we needed to make, and there were stillserious quality problems with many printers. In addition, newprinters were being shipped with additional inks that we couldn'thandle very well. We also had to adapt to other changes, such as GIMP2.0 based on GTK+ 2.0, which was not backward compatible withGTK+/GIMP 1.2. We released Gimp-Print 5.0 beta in June with manyimprovements, but there were still quite a few things on our releasechecklist that weren't done.
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Based on the popularity of Gimp-Print 4.2, we decided that it wasvery important that Gimp-Print 5.0 not interfere with the use ofGimp-Print 4.2. It was clear that the changes in 5.0 were tooextensive to maintain compatibility in any useful way with 4.2, and alot of people had incorporated 4.2 into their daily work, so wethought long and hard about how to make the CUPS and Foomaticinterfaces not interfere with Gimp-Print 4.2.
It also became apparent that our ties to the GIMP had all butvanished by this point. We had actually squeezed all of theGIMP-related code out into a very small stub that was actuallysmaller than the original GIMP plugin! Furthermore, the Gimp-Printname was causing a lot of confusion among users; OS X users inparrticular were referring to Gimp-Print as 'Gimp'. We settled onthe name Gutenprint, and renamed the project in the fall of 2004.
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We were still in beta; progress was slow at this point, but weweren't satisfied with the results. We finally did our first releasecandidate in September 2005, over a year after we entered beta. Wecontinued to move toward 5.0 release, but there was still a lot ofcleanup work that needed to be done: printers needed to be retuned,PPD files needed to be validated, we needed to incorporate feedbackfrom users that we only really started to get from the releasecandidates. There were a number of serious but subtle bugs with theCUPS and Foomatic interfaces that needed to be fixed in order to havea useful 5.0 public release.
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In April 2006 I attended my second printing summit, this onehosted by Lanier, and spent three days working with many key playersin the Linux/UNIX printing world. This was very productive; I got alot of useful feedback on various issues and was able to raise issuesimportant to Gutenprint. We released the third release candidate inMay 2006, with a tremendous number of bug fixes and improvements, andthis finally felt like a real release candidate. We receivedextensive feedback from this release, and fixed other problems andmade some other changes to improve quality.
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In Gutenprint 5.2, we accomplished many of our outstanding goalsleft over from Gutenprint 5.0, but not all. We've rewritten thePostscript output driver, converted the data in the Epson driver to bedata-driven, and much more. Unfortunately, Gutenprint 5.2 still doesnot offer true color management, but many of the hooks required arethere.